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The purpose of this True or False is to elicit the insights students have about the composition of multi-digit numbers in terms of place value. It also reinforces the idea that the same digit has different values depending on its place in a number—digits cannot be viewed in isolation of their positions. This reasoning will be helpful later when students compare and order numbers within 1,000,000.
Decide if each statement is true or false. Explain your reasoning.
This activity prompts students to examine more closely how multi-digit numbers can be compared, and to use their insights to order several numbers. Students solidify their awareness that looking only at the first digit is not a definitive way of comparing numbers. They also practice constructing a logical argument and critiquing the reasoning of others (MP3) when they explain why the strategy of analyzing only one digit is not reliable. When students refine Tyler's statement about comparing numbers to include making sure to compare digits with the same place value, they attend to precision in the language they use (MP6).
This activity uses MLR1 Stronger and Clearer Each Time. Advances: reading, writing
Tyler compares large numbers by looking at the first digit from the left.
He says, “The greater the first digit, the greater the number. If the first digit is the same, then we compare the second digit.”
In each of these pairs of numbers, is the number with the greater first digit also the greater number?
985,248 and 320,097
72,050 and 64,830
320,097 and 58,978
54,000 and 587,000
58,978 and 547,612
146,001 and 1,483
Does Tyler’s strategy work for comparing any pair of numbers? Explain your reasoning.
Use your strategy to order these numbers from least to greatest.
In this activity, students apply their understanding of place value to order multi-digit whole numbers and solve problems in context. They also reason about the range of numbers whose values are between two given numbers.
Mai and her friends had a video game tournament one weekend.
Here are the scores at the end of the tournament.
| player | score |
|---|---|
| Mai | 93,005 |
| Priya | 101,012 |
| Kiran | 90,298 |
| Noah | 90,056 |
| Clare | 98,032 |
| Elena | 89,100 |
| Andre | -- |
Rank the scores from highest to lowest. Who is in first place?
Andre’s score was accidentally deleted but everyone agreed he is in second place. Could Andre’s score be a six-digit number?
Describe what Andre’s score could be and give a couple of examples.
“Today we compared and ordered numbers within 1,000,000.”
“Is it true that whole numbers with more digits are always greater than those with fewer digits? Why or why not? Can you give an example?” (Yes. More digits means greater place values. A three-digit number has hundreds for its largest place value. A four-digit number has thousands.)
“Write down two large numbers that show that it is possible to tell which number is greater by comparing the first or leftmost digits. Then share the numbers with your partner.” (Sample response: 6,315 and 4,315)
“Write down two other numbers that show that we can’t rely on the first or leftmost digits to tell us which number is greater. Share them with your partner.” (Sample response: 6,315 and 42,315)